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with journalists, were you not, while they were being investigated by scotland yard that is improper isn't it? >> put yourself in my shoes. we have to go back to the time line with what happened and i can't remember that. >> i can remember that. >> i can't remember the timing of when those happen in relation to what was going on in their investigation but i absolutely agree there was an occasion when they were investigated that that may have happened. now the judgment is there's no way i ever discourage anything -- >> you say that. you have made a judgment call to accept hospitality from people you are investigating other criminal offense. that's correct, isn't it? you think that is an appropriate course of action to have taken? >> let me finish. the judgment is to say let's not do that and make some excuses. i discussed that with a senior colleague there at the time. this was the director of communications. >> what is his name? >> [inaudible] >> not to have that the dinner would be potentially more suspicious than to have it. [laughter] i don't know why you're laughing because -- >> i'm very
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